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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Fallout 3 Reply with quote
Just got the game yesterday on the recommendation from a highly respected source. On PC it looks like the game shipped with more than the usual amount of bugs. I know personally I've been able to get many games running which caused a great deal of people issues, but so far it's been crashing quite a bit. Right now I'm re-downloading/installing it from steam and hoping this will resolve my issues. (i also updated drivers, codecs and dx9)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know I found that if I had my pipboy station on the Galaxy News Radio near the beginning that would increase my crash rate.

What OS are you running?

Also a few people said they had some luck with flashing their video bios.  That's somewhat risky tho.

Ultimately, I think that the frequent crashes are something a good deal of people are having issues with and Bethesda will release a patch.  Hopefully soon.  >.<

I know that mine also inevitably crashes after a certain point, but usually only after several hours.  So far the only real solution I've found is to follow one of the 'tips' that Bethesda put on the Oblivion loading screens... "Save Early, Save Often"

Good luck though!  I hope you can find something to stabilize your game a bit before they release the patch, cause who knows how long that will take!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, I've been crashing now and then but definitely not every 5 minutes. I think I'd be much more dissatisfied with the game if that were happening! D: My friend managed to crash his FO3 before I did and he has pretty much a God Built Machine of Shiny-ness in comparison to mine so know that you're not alone? n.n;

As for bugs where the NPCs in Megaton are falling to death, I personally would find it hysterical but alas, I'm denied the privilege to see such acts of Comedy Platinum. Sad

Oh but I will definitely tinker with the mp3 folder so thank you for bringing that to my attention, Cullen. Very Happy

Ugh but yeah, hopefully someone out there comes out with a mod for character creation. When they do, let me know. PLEASE. lol
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Haha... indeed.... also with the whole resurrect code in the console is helpful for when Dogmeat kicks the bucket.  Which does happen occasionally when he gets too excited and runs off into a pack of supermutants, or stupidly steps on a landmine >.<  Though honestly it can be safer to just make sure to quicksave constantly with his silly self.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2998807

I recommend this thread for other information about how to tweak your Fallout 3 for PC if you are interested.  It goes over how to change the tracks on the ingame radio station, and has links to the various mods that are already available.  Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I copied data/shaders/shaderpackage002.sdp to data/shaders/shaderpackage008.sdp and that plus switching to low detail made it run much more stable.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
excellent!  glad you were able to get the game playable.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
so, i bought the love theme for my Megaton house.

.... some flowers....Christmas lights/tree... heart shaped bed in the middle of my floor...

...gianormous glowing wire statue of two lesbians having sex hanging from the ceiling...

wait. what???

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
o.O

I need to get my computer upgraded faster.  I've the shiny Pip Boy Lunchbox Collector's edition on my desk but my video card isn't compatible.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.gamingnewslink.com/200...10015-download-and-patch-changes/

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I get the same error. It appears that even their Patches need some sort of testing before release too. I’ve tried the patch on the US version of the DVD as well as the updated exe from SecuROM. Get the same error on both. The patch does appear to modify some files in the Windows System folder through the Command BOX; however, it doesn’t do anything to the Game exe or anything in the directory.

I have found the primary issues causing the CTD and other crashes. I’ve sent 3 e-mails to Bethesda and no responses. My Computer Science Engineering department took a shot it. I purchased 320 copies and gave them the weekend to figure it out. Here are some of the results;

1.) Fallout 3 Installer installs an older version on C++ Visual 2005 that appears to affect the way the vidcard driver communicates with the game.

2.) Fallout 3 Installer installs a Beta release of DOTNETFX3.0 (.NET Framework 3.0). For users of .NET Framework 3.0 SP1 or even SP2 (Service Pack of the Framework not the OS), upon restarting their system (when changes take place), their game will be quite unstable.
Users of .NET 3.5 or Vista should have even more random crashes.

3.) Fallout 3 Installer installs a non Plug’n Play DRM device manager (not driver but a manager) that doesn’t like any 3rd party codecs (ie K-Lite, WinAMP, etc) and will usually see a CTD when a Hardware codec comes online. This usually occurs when interactive audio (client controlled speech) initializes (ie baby walking to daddy).

4. Fallout 3 Installer installs SecuROM Root kit as well as 8 hidden non Plug’n play virtual drivers. Owners with more than one Optical drive or a sata drive may encounter random drive access issues. Also, Imaging software or any software that may use its own ASPI drive (ie NERO, Roxio, Daemon, ISO, etc.) will have one of the 8 virtual drivers causing the system to do a random CTD. Reason why clients using a cracked EXE don’t experience the same volume of CTD as those who bought the game. However, the SecuROM root kits are still on the system and active. Once the SecuROM is also purged from the system, 60% of the crashes disappear. Unfortunately, they must remain on the system in order to play the game as they are part of the EULA.

5.) Fallout 3 also has its own built in MP3 codec coupled to its DRM to protect MP3’s on the DVD (in game). Unfortunately, the codec was never tested fully with hardware decoders like those of an X-FI. This can be varied by the lack of a hardware audio switch in the game options.

6.) Fallout 3 has 14 memory leaks that we found. Most are small, but there are a few that are quite large. Some areas of the map, the memory counter just spins at over 100 MB/sec. Most memory leaks are around 5 to 10 MB/sec.

7.) Fallout 3 video graphics buffer needs to be adjustable in the options and an automatic cache purger installed for cards over 512 MBs as well as linked buffers from SLI and crossfire cards. I’ve seen areas where names on the screen start to disappear and all you see are “Input Text Here” instead of V.A.T.S. or range or etc. The cache doesn’t get dumped on some maps. Most games dump their cache when a map reload occurs. This can be noticed when fast reloads occurs from map changes. Most users will just see their graphics card run out of memory (CTD and stuttering).

8.) Most games were fault free with a basic XP Pro SP2 reload, and only Critical updates and latest stock drivers. Installed the game and played it error free for nearly 4 days. Upon a system restart, lots of errors showed up. This means that Fallout 3 significantly changes the operating system. Far beyond reasonable accounts as all you can do with the system in not to play MP3’s, watch movies, make a CD or DVD, or play other games.

Hopefully, Bethesda will address the issues more than 100,000 people are having.


This makes a lot of sense. Most of the people who've had problems no matter what fixes they try use 1 or 2 gigs of ram. Most of the people who can run it very very well use 8 gigs of ram. [/quote]
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogue wrote:
...gianormous glowing wire statue of two lesbians having sex hanging from the ceiling...

wait. what???


LOL yeah.. I haven't gotten the love theme for my room but I saw the ginormous lesbian light fixture when I stumbled into Dukov's Place close to the Tepid Sewers and Anchorage War Memorial...

Ashara wrote:
o.O

I need to get my computer upgraded faster.  I've the shiny Pip Boy Lunchbox Collector's edition on my desk but my video card isn't compatible.


Yessss....yes, you do, kitty. ;3

And only the lunchbox? Not the shiny Survival one that comes with the Pip Boy clock as well?! XD

Sadly...this game has been pushed to the side ever since I started playing Atlantica Online so yeah... But I was never in a huge rush to beat the game either so it works out! Very Happy



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