
philip4579
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Gay Marriage & The Sims 3Hey.
I recently started a thread on thesims2.ea.com asking for them to change how gay sims get married at the moment.
Right now, in The Sims 2, gay sims can get married, only when they do they get less aspiration points when they do and it's called a Joined Union, not a marriage. I would ask that anyone here with an account there or anyone who is a fan of the sims series to go and speak your mind.
Peace out.
P.S. if you haven't got an account, but would like to tell Maxis that you want this to be changed, you'll need to make an account and then register at least one The Sims 2 game by clicking here.
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Vickie
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Replied in the official thread. I'm pretty disappointed with the reaction over there; but I can't say I'm all that surprised.
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veggiespork
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I used a hack to fix that on the sims 2.
Cheer up!
At least the Obama administration is signing the U.N. declaration that decriminalizes homosexuality worldwide.
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deegato
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Since marriage is a possession based, government sanctioned, religious institution Im not sure why we want to be included in that mess in the first place.
But since you brought it up, I cant dog EA, since they are the only game I own that even acknowledges homosexuality. It is one of the few positive things about EA and there arent many!
I love being able to create lezzie households and I appreciate EA for giving me the option.
I dont want the government in my business and I dont want the government in my Sims!
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worldharmony
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Sims3 allows lesbian/gay marriage. The Sims can start by flirting with one another, whether or not a Sim is the same gender as the Sim you are playing. So far, so good. I just wish I didn't have to make all my butch lesbians with hourglass figures!! I tried using the male Sim to create a rather cute woman and the illusion held through all of her interactions.
Then she went to the bathroom and the deception was over. Drats.
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thisasianchick
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Yeah.. personally to me, I don't care if its called a 'marriage' or a 'civil union' as long as it is equal.. and seeing as how this is the Sims we're talking about, its safe to say its equal. I believe EA did a wonderful job, including gay marriages, and even acknowledging homosexuality. I've always been a fan of the Sims, and have purchased every single one from the first Sims, to the second, and EA and Maxis including gay marriage only sealed the deal for me to support them the future. Even if they do release unfinished products sometimes.. okay most of the time :p
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Thefremen
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What I don't get about the sims 3 is the lifecycles. by the time your young adult's baby has grown they're an elder. That and they go from looking 23 to looking 35 to looking 89.
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thisasianchick
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Yeah, I was hoping they'd make the aging cycles a bit better so the Sims actually progressively age correctly. Oh well, perhaps in the Sims 4? haha.
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callmejaneway
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Do any of you know a way to make a woman in a lesbian marraige in sims 3 get pregnant? (without cheating)... I know you can adopt, but my girl wants to have a baby... is there an option of in vitro or anything like that? I was also thinking maybe fertility treatment might make it possible for lesbians to have a baby together, but I don't want to waste my points on it if it doesn't do anything...
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Thefremen
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| callmejaneway wrote: | Do any of you know a way to make a woman in a lesbian marraige in sims 3 get pregnant? (without cheating)... I know you can adopt, but my girl wants to have a baby... is there an option of in vitro or anything like that? I was also thinking maybe fertility treatment might make it possible for lesbians to have a baby together, but I don't want to waste my points on it if it doesn't do anything...  |
Yeah I don't get why the mechanics in this have to be so mysterious. AFAIK it's up to a whim of the fates just like with hetero couples. I've done it both ways and in both instances they wanted one and got the other. Luckily my dudes were happy after having 1 and didn't keep on wanting more kids, unlike my breeder hetero couple. It still is seriously weird to me that the game has your sim turn into a 97 year old lady, with a 2 year old kid. WEIRD.
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Kaledio_Ruby
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| callmejaneway wrote: | Do any of you know a way to make a woman in a lesbian marraige in sims 3 get pregnant? (without cheating)... I know you can adopt, but my girl wants to have a baby... is there an option of in vitro or anything like that? I was also thinking maybe fertility treatment might make it possible for lesbians to have a baby together, but I don't want to waste my points on it if it doesn't do anything...  |
If you like drama, you can try what I did (without hacks). Start off a family and have the future wife/girlfriend as a roommate. XD Knock up your sim with however many children you want, then while the husband is away, flirt your ass away with the roommate. At some point in the intense flirting, one can ask the other to break up the current relationship. I didn't realize it would do it at THAT EXACT MOMENT, so while the husband was away at work, he got ESP and foud out he had been ditched.
Drama, I know... It actually made me laugh. A lot.
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NightSky
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I used to say the same thing ("as long as it's equal, I don't care what they call it!"), but there is one thing you have to realize. The actual act of NOT calling it marriage means it is inherently NOT equal. It's like saying to an African American, "You have a fountain too! It gives you exactly everything our fountain gives us except yours is called the colored's fountain! See, it's equal!" Ehh, not really. Another thing to realize is that if we continually accept marriage being called anything but marriage (if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck, it's a duck! No need to call it anything different), the religious right will always try to take actual rights away. This is not a hypothetical arguement. There are plenty of facts to go around showing them doing exactly that--trying to take our rights away. Having it named something different than marriage makes it far easier to do this. If we were all included under the same name, however, then instead of taking only gay people's rights away, they would have to specifically exclude us from something, making it a more in-your-face discrimination which is far less likely to pass.
So in conclusion, The Sims are great for including us but the fact that people can actually legally get married in some states means that marriage is already redefined and should be redefined in that way in any manner it appears (including a game). For instance, two gay men who are legally married in Massachusetts recreate their family in the Sims but suddenly they're demoted to a "Union"? Seeing as how The Sims is supposed to represent real life, they should recognize that they are purposefully excluding something. In essence, they are writing discrimination into a game. Would it be OK if they wrote into the game that black neighborhoods are separate from white neighborhoods? Or what if they called slim sims "pretty sims" and non-slim sims "other sims"? It's still the same isn't it? It's equal, right? Well, of course not. It's writing discrimination in as I mentioned before. So no, "Unioned" sims should not be called "unioned" at all. They should be called what everybody else is called, MARRIED!
/end rant
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Thefremen
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But that's exactly how it is in Sims 3. 2 guys can get married, 2 girls can get married, and annoyingly them being same sex couples does not stop them from constantly wanting more babies. (depending on the sim, some are more career minded)
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ShadowTiger
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While 2 same-sex sims can get married in the Sims 3 (i'm pretty sure)... its dissapointing that you don't start of with any characters in town that are in same-sex relationships or single but gay. Everyone in the sim's is technically bi since to my knowledge they will never refuse to fall in love and make whoopie with anyone for any reason. While that certainly is useful since i lets you play the game the way you want to play, it also makes the default setting of everyone being straight really dissapointing. While I would never expect EA to release a game that forces everyone to encounter gay marriage... i feel like this is as far as they will go to give equality, and there is alot more to be added considering the fact that you can't crossdress or change genders mid game or any of that stuff.
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Thefremen
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| ShadowTiger wrote: | | While 2 same-sex sims can get married in the Sims 3 (i'm pretty sure)... its dissapointing that you don't start of with any characters in town that are in same-sex relationships or single but gay. Everyone in the sim's is technically bi since to my knowledge they will never refuse to fall in love and make whoopie with anyone for any reason. While that certainly is useful since i lets you play the game the way you want to play, it also makes the default setting of everyone being straight really dissapointing. While I would never expect EA to release a game that forces everyone to encounter gay marriage... i feel like this is as far as they will go to give equality, and there is alot more to be added considering the fact that you can't crossdress or change genders mid game or any of that stuff. |
Is that true for both towns? I personally haven't bothered with hicksville USA or whatever the second one is called.
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NightSky
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| ShadowTiger wrote: | | it also makes the default setting of everyone being straight really dissapointing. While I would never expect EA to release a game that forces everyone to encounter gay marriage... |
It's not forcing everyone to encounter same-sex marriage. As you said, everyone starts out straight. The only reason you would encounter same-sex marriage is if you created the characters that way.
As for not including any transgendered options, I agree with you. There should be the ability to be whomever you want to be (that's the point of the game really).
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ShadowTiger
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I meant that I would personally enjoy having same-sex couples and swinger couples and crossdressing people built into the game as NPCs, I doubt that EA would ever release such a game and i bet that it would get a rating of M for mature if it was released like that.
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Thefremen
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| ShadowTiger wrote: | | I meant that I would personally enjoy having same-sex couples and swinger couples and crossdressing people built into the game as NPCs, I doubt that EA would ever release such a game and i bet that it would get a rating of M for mature if it was released like that. |
In the next one I'd like towns that are pre-designed and populated but also have the option of populating towns as you wish from the get-go. IE: a town full of professional athletes, a town of super scientists or a town where every table is a fooseball table.
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NightSky
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| ShadowTiger wrote: | | I meant that I would personally enjoy having same-sex couples and swinger couples and crossdressing people built into the game as NPCs, I doubt that EA would ever release such a game and i bet that it would get a rating of M for mature if it was released like that. |
Ahh, ok. Yeah, no way any real game company putting all that in a game unfortunately. I have to say, when I first started playing the Sims I was surprised it even allowed you to be gay. All I do in the game any time I play it now, though, is give myself cheat money, have a sweet looking sports car and flirt with everyone that rings my doorbell. lol
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